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Disciple4Christ
Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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 Posted: Oct 22, 2007 00:52 Post subject: ITS OUT OF CONTROL AND IN OUR FACE |
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EVERYWHERE I LOOK, ON TV IN SCHOOL EVERYWHERE BUT IN CHURCH ALL I SEE IS GAY THIS, GAY RIGHTS THAT OPEN DISPLAYS OF THIER LIFESTYLE BEING PUSHED DOWN OUR THROATS, I KNOW THAT JESUS LOVES THE SINNER BUT HATES THE SIN, IT JUST APEARS THAT, THAT SIN IS BEING THRUST UPON US IS THERE NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE, IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, SODOMITES RUNNING AROUND, OPENLY PROMOTING THIER LIFESTYLE, GAY MARRIAGE, GAY PASTORS, GAY CHURCHES, ITS LIKE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL, AND ITS VERY SAD TO SEE THIS DAY COME TO LIGHT, AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
THATS THE SADDEST THING EVER
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justme
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| Posted: Oct 23, 2007 11:37 Post subject: |
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| Hey, "nothing WE can do about it?" What about YOU? You may be only one person, but start there, brother! What can YOU do about it to be an example to encourage others to follow? Don't be afraid to stand for the faith even if the crowd isn't! |
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bbeach
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Oct 25, 2007 22:13 Post subject: Re: ITS OUT OF CONTROL AND IN OUR FACE |
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| Disciple4Christ wrote: | EVERYWHERE I LOOK, ON TV IN SCHOOL EVERYWHERE BUT IN CHURCH ALL I SEE IS GAY THIS, GAY RIGHTS THAT OPEN DISPLAYS OF THIER LIFESTYLE BEING PUSHED DOWN OUR THROATS, I KNOW THAT JESUS LOVES THE SINNER BUT HATES THE SIN, IT JUST APEARS THAT, THAT SIN IS BEING THRUST UPON US IS THERE NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE, IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, SODOMITES RUNNING AROUND, OPENLY PROMOTING THIER LIFESTYLE, GAY MARRIAGE, GAY PASTORS, GAY CHURCHES, ITS LIKE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL, AND ITS VERY SAD TO SEE THIS DAY COME TO LIGHT, AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
THATS THE SADDEST THING EVER |
Ever considered why you care? That's a bit of an obtuse observation. You see "gays" everywhere? But do they see you? Do they judge you? Webster's Medical defines paranoia as "a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others"--why do you distrust homosexuals?
Oh, and on the "Sodomites running around" part: look at the Jewish interpretation of Sodom and Gomorrah. The passage is about sexual depravity and hospitality in general. This comes from a much deeper study of the passage than you've provided.
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responsetopamphlet
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| what are gays going to do to you? do they have coodies that you are going to get by standing next to them? gays don't choose to be gay; i had friends in high school who turned out to be gay and they didn't choose to. they didn't choose a life of persecution. they had a natural (relative to their chemical make-up) attraction to the same sex. Jesus told us that whatever we do to the least of His people, we do onto Him. persecute a gay and you are slapping Jesus in the face. |
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RLDabney
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| Posted: Oct 28, 2007 13:45 Post subject: |
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"gays don't choose to be gay"
Just as liars don't choose to be liars, thieves don't choose to be thieves, adulterers don't choose to be adulterers...
There is something called "SIN NATURE", we all have had the desire to sin, however, our CHOICE is do we act on that desire. I have never met someone who was born engaging in sodomy, just as I have never met someone born lying or stealing or committing adultery. I have met those who claim that as long as they can remember they always wanted to steal, always wanted to lie, always wanted to have sex with the opposite sex, or always were attracted to the same sex.
Not one of those things should be encouraged or justified because "they think they were born that way." Instead, we must recognize that it is obviously a choice to engage in behavior, we must look at the behavior and determine it to be good or evil. From that, we should determine as a society whether or not the behavior should be ENCOURAGED or DISCOURAGED.
The laws of nature and nature's God both indicate that sodomy, like stealing, adultery, lying, etc... should be DISCOURAGED. In recent American history, sodomy and adultery were both criminalized in all 50 states. Sodomy was a crime all the way up 'til 2003 - what's so wrong with that? |
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justme
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| Posted: Oct 29, 2007 18:49 Post subject: |
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| RLDabney wrote: | | Sodomy was a crime all the way up 'til 2003 - what's so wrong with that? |
The fact that they are no longer considered 'crimes against nature', that's what. |
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Fluffy Bubbles
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| Hermaphrodites didn't choose to be hermaphrodites. "God" made them that way. What are they supposed to do? |
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bbeach
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| Posted: Nov 05, 2007 22:20 Post subject: |
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| justme wrote: | | RLDabney wrote: | | Sodomy was a crime all the way up 'til 2003 - what's so wrong with that? |
The fact that they are no longer considered 'crimes against nature', that's what. |
When was homosexuality considered a crime against nature? It certainly wasn't in early western decorum. Greco-Roman traditions practiced homosexuality almost as a right of passage, as did the Egyptians.
You'll argue that Paul (the artist formally known as Saul) was the evangelist eradicator of such depravity. Not necessarily true. In fact, if we were to look at western tradition following Paul's messages, it still remained relatively homoerotic.
Albeit, homosexuality was never tolerated in Judeo-Christian tradition. Most notably by the Catholic church that suppressed homosexuality for thousands of years.
But this doesn't make homosexuality a crime against nature, rather one against tradition, church and doctrine.
You may also argue its legality in this nation; I refute that this is strictly catalytic of the clerical western thought which lingered past its defeat at the turn of the 18th century. It's diminished now. People are free to return to their natural state, eroticism included. Get over it.
Don’t try to use verse in this attack. It doesn’t help your case, it only contributes to doctrine.
These people aren't attacking you--you're attacking them.
I'll be much put off if you attack them from your pulpit in the quad.
As will everyone else.
-B
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maccee44
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responsetopamphlet
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Glad to see that if the world were left up to RLDabney and maccee44, slavery would still be legal, the sun would be thought to orbit the earth, women would be unable to vote, sicknesses and diseases would be attributed to wrongdoings, etc.
There's a reason we are suppossed to LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST!
Just because something was one way in the past doesn't mean that that was right or that there is no reason to correct mistakes.
Have you talked to someone who is gay? Why don't you tell them that they chose to give into sin and that it's impossible for them to have naturally felt attracted to the same sex. They have no more control over their sexual preference than they do over the color of their skin |
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bbeach
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| Posted: Nov 11, 2007 22:12 Post subject: Re: Yes, it is |
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Had to look for that definition didn't you? Its predominant use is either anal copulation or same-sex eroticism. Don't use out-of-context definitions to support your intolerance. It ruins your credibility.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sodomy
-B
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maccee44
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An 1828 dictionary definition is not out of context at all when answering bbeach's question: "When was homosexuality considered a crime against nature?"
My answer obviously shows the fact that sodomy was considered a crime against nature in 1828 in America, by definition.
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justme
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| Not to mention that it shows how far gone this country is... |
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bbeach
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| Posted: Nov 12, 2007 19:15 Post subject: |
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| maccee44 wrote: | An 1828 dictionary definition is not out of context at all when answering bbeach's question: "When was homosexuality considered a crime against nature?"
My answer obviously shows the fact that sodomy was considered a crime against nature in 1828 in America, by definition. |
Newspeak. Read Orwell.
Because that diction was colloquial in homophobic 1828 doesn't change the base, unmolested meaning of the word. To hell with Webster's dictionary in 1828 and its narrow, pseudo-maniacal grasp of human nature. What bullocks.
-B
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pridefullpagan
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I have a few things to say. The first thing is that Websters dictionary was not released until the late 1800's, I know this because I have a copy of the original. So how that came from a 1825 version is beyond me. Also there are many versus of the bible that support homosexuality.
Don't believe me follow this link
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bmar.htm |
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